The ‘Cabinet Leader,’ Jea says, is ‘voted in by fellow cabinet members.’
The statement is totally untrue.
Readers of the old Canvey Beat will remember that I once directed Jea’s attention to Castle Point Borough Council’s Constitution; but it seems he still has not read it.
Jea’s comments come just as the Town Council announced its own intention to set-up a Friends of Canvey Lake residents’ fund on the same lines as those recent financial implements created by Letchford and Swann – and close on the heels of Dave Blackwell’s attempt to cast aspersions on this Blog’s posts under the guise of an ‘Ian Day’ alias.
It seems that Blackwell and his friends are gearing-up for the long campaign to retain their Borough and Town Council seats and, as in the last local election, one of their ambitions is to discredit the Canvey Beat.
Of course, Dave Blackwell is understandably angry. Unlike the local media, the Canvey Beat does not provide space for his curious views. But neither does it provide prime space to any other local politician’s personal interpretation of the facts.
This is just a part-time Blog. It is not an online newspaper. Its main purpose has always been to highlight inaccurate political statements, which seek to deceive residents, and cut through political spin.
It can be argued that the Canvey Beat has a duty to put both sides of an argument; but it inevitably does. All its articles contain links to the sources upon which they are based, and readers can draw their own conclusions as to whether they agree with its editorial or not. They are also free to leave comments in the reader’s forum, or provide an email for publishing, if they wish.
Hypertext linking is the modern way of ensuring readers obtain a full picture - without running the risk of being accused of taking a quote out of context.
But Dave likes to see his name in print, accompanied by a quote that an overworked junior reporter does not have the time to query. When that fails, he resorts to commenting in a suitable readers’ forum, cloaked in an alias, to get his message across – or has one of his friends do it for him. (He can hardly use his own name lest it be proved he is lying).
Spin, it appears, comes as naturally to Tom Jea as it does to Blackwell - but residents can well do without it.
Despite myself I’m posting another response, because it makes me so cross how needlessly rude this bloggist is. Normally I would have better manners than to address someone by just their surname but as I am referred to as ‘Jea’, I’ll stop concerning myself with politeness, just come out with what I think bluntly, and reply in kind-
ReplyDeletePugh- I don’t get why you need to try and take the p*ss out of me personally. I didn’t make any comments about you (just noted how much inaccurate crud you put up). I also think you are gutless to do it over the internet- if ever I feel the need to personally insult somebody, I do it to their face.
Your sneaky, poisonous insinuations are also very distasteful. Disagree with people, yes- but it is bad to cast aspersions against people who are trying to do something positive (like telling people they are lying, or suggesting they are setting up some kind of slush fund for themselves), without doing anything to find out what you’re going on about.
You also pull ideas right out of thin air- where the heck did I so much as mention the Canvey Island Independent Party, let alone ‘pick up cudgels’?! Just to be clear- I am nothing to do with the Canvey Island Independent Party. I am also nothing to do with Bob Spink, as you have previously insinuated.
It would be great if you could get through your head that the pool campaign has nothing whatsoever to do with political parties- it is only about trying to save a well used public ammenity which provides enhanced safety to children as they bathe at the Sea Front. Plenty of Conservative Councillors also want to save it, and so does Conservative MP Rebecca Harris; the pool campaigners are not anti-Conservative.
One thing you ARE right about is that I did make a mistake and put that the Leader was voted in by Cabinet members, when it should have been Council members (the mistake was mine; Colin Letchford’s petition doesn’t make it). I tried to correct it in the second response by writing ‘the same Leader has just been voted in- again- by a very small number of people. Not the voters of the Borough.’ That point is still valid.
As for your self-righteous drivel about the purpose of your blog- Hah! Far from highlighting inaccurate political statements and cutting through political spin, it makes countless inaccurate (and worse, completely foundless) statements itself, and is about the most biased thing I’ve ever read. Can any regular reader point me to any item critical of a Conservative? Or praising any action of an Independent?
To anyone who reads this and thinks I’ve descended to Pugh’s level- I know I have. Trying to write in a reasonable and civilsed way just attracts a p*sstake from Pugh. I just ask you to note how polite I was until he started writing his drivel about full moons, and me howling, and so on.
Tom Jea.
Despite myself I’m posting another response, because it makes me so cross how needlessly rude this bloggist is. Normally I would have better manners than to address someone by just their surname but as I am referred to as ‘Jea’, I’ll stop concerning myself with politeness, just come out with what I think bluntly, and reply in kind-
ReplyDeletePugh- I don’t get why you need to try and take the p*ss out of me personally. I didn’t make any comments about you (just noted how much inaccurate crud you put up). I also think you are gutless to do it over the internet- if ever I feel the need to personally insult somebody, I do it to their face.
Your sneaky, poisonous insinuations are also very distasteful. Disagree with people, yes- but it is bad to cast aspersions against people who are trying to do something positive (like telling people they are lying, or suggesting they are setting up some kind of slush fund for themselves), without doing anything to find out what you’re going on about.
You also pull ideas right out of thin air- where the heck did I so much as mention the Canvey Island Independent Party, let alone ‘pick up cudgels’?! Just to be clear- I am nothing to do with the Canvey Island Independent Party. I am also nothing to do with Bob Spink, as you have previously insinuated.
It would be great if you could get through your head that the pool campaign has nothing whatsoever to do with political parties- it is only about trying to save a well used public ammenity which provides enhanced safety to children as they bathe at the Sea Front. Plenty of Conservative Councillors also want to save it, and so does Conservative MP Rebecca Harris; the pool campaigners are not anti-Conservative.
One thing you ARE right about is that I did make a mistake and put that the Leader was voted in by Cabinet members, when it should have been Council members (the mistake was mine; Colin Letchford’s petition doesn’t make it). I tried to correct it in the second response by writing ‘the same Leader has just been voted in- again- by a very small number of people. Not the voters of the Borough.’ That point is still valid.
As for your self-righteous drivel about the purpose of your blog- Hah! Far from highlighting inaccurate political statements and cutting through political spin, it makes countless inaccurate (and worse, completely foundless) statements itself, and is about the most biased thing I’ve ever read. Can any regular reader point me to any item critical of a Conservative? Or praising any action of an Independent?
To anyone who reads this and thinks I’ve descended to Pugh’s level- I know I have. Trying to write in a reasonable and civilsed way just attracts a p*sstake from Pugh. I just ask you to note how polite I was until he started writing his drivel about full moons, and me howling, and so on.
Tom Jea.
Despite myself I’m posting another response, because it makes me so cross how needlessly rude this bloggist is. Normally I would have better manners than to address someone by just their surname but as I am referred to as ‘Jea’, I’ll stop concerning myself with politeness, just come out with what I think bluntly, and reply in kind-
ReplyDeletePugh- I don’t get why you need to try and take the p*ss out of me personally. I didn’t make any comments about you (just noted how much inaccurate crud you put up). I also think you are gutless to do it over the internet- if ever I feel the need to personally insult somebody, I do it to their face.
Your sneaky, poisonous insinuations are also very distasteful. Disagree with people, yes- but it is bad to cast aspersions against people who are trying to do something positive (like telling people they are lying, or suggesting they are setting up some kind of slush fund for themselves), without doing anything to find out what you’re going on about.
You also pull ideas right out of thin air- where the heck did I so much as mention the Canvey Island Independent Party, let alone ‘pick up cudgels’?! Just to be clear- I am nothing to do with the Canvey Island Independent Party. I am also nothing to do with Bob Spink, as you have previously insinuated.
It would be great if you could get through your head that the pool campaign has nothing whatsoever to do with political parties- it is only about trying to save a well used public ammenity which provides enhanced safety to children as they bathe at the Sea Front. Plenty of Conservative Councillors also want to save it, and so does Conservative MP Rebecca Harris; the pool campaigners are not anti-Conservative.
One thing you ARE right about is that I did make a mistake and put that the Leader was voted in by Cabinet members, when it should have been Council members (the mistake was mine; Colin Letchford’s petition doesn’t make it). I tried to correct it in the second response by writing ‘the same Leader has just been voted in- again- by a very small number of people. Not the voters of the Borough.’ That point is still valid.
As for your self-righteous drivel about the purpose of your blog- Hah! Far from highlighting inaccurate political statements and cutting through political spin, it makes countless inaccurate (and worse, completely foundless) statements itself, and is about the most biased thing I’ve ever read. Can any regular reader point me to any item critical of a Conservative? Or praising any action of an Independent?
To anyone who reads this and thinks I’ve descended to Pugh’s level- I know I have. Trying to write in a reasonable and civilsed way just attracts a p*sstake from Pugh. I just ask you to note how polite I was until he started writing his drivel about full moons, and me howling, and so on.
Tom Jea.
Despite myself I’m posting another response, because it makes me so cross how needlessly rude this bloggist is. Normally I would have better manners than to address someone by just their surname but as I am referred to as ‘Jea’, I’ll stop concerning myself with politeness, just come out with what I think bluntly, and reply in kind-
ReplyDeletePugh- I don’t get why you need to try and take the p*ss out of me personally. I didn’t make any comments about you (just noted how much inaccurate crud you put up). I also think you are gutless to do it over the internet- if ever I feel the need to personally insult somebody, I do it to their face.
Your sneaky, poisonous insinuations are also very distasteful. Disagree with people, yes- but you cast aspersions against people who are trying to do something positive (like telling people they are lying, or suggesting they are setting up some kind of slush fund for themselves), without doing anything to find out what you’re going on about.
You also pull ideas right out of thin air- where the heck did I so much as mention the Canvey Island Independent Party, let alone ‘pick up cudgels’?! Just to be clear- I am nothing to do with the Canvey Island Independent Party. I am also nothing to do with Bob Spink, as you have previously insinuated.
It would be great if you could get through your head that the pool campaign has nothing whatsoever to do with political parties- it is only about trying to save a well used public ammenity which provides enhanced safety to children as they bathe at the Sea Front.
One thing you ARE right about is that I did make a mistake and put that the Leader was voted in by Cabinet members, when it should have been Council members (the mistake was mine; Colin Letchford’s petition doesn’t make it). I tried to correct it in the second response by writing ‘the same Leader has just been voted in- again- by a very small number of people. Not the voters of the Borough.’ That point is still valid.
As for your self-righteous drivel about the purpose of your blog- it is about the most biased thing I’ve ever read. Can any regular reader point me to any item critical of a Conservative? Or praising any action of an Independent?
To anyone who reads this and thinks I’ve descended to Pugh’s level- I know I have. Trying to write in a reasonable and civilsed way just attracts a p*sstake from Pugh. I just ask you to note how polite I was until he started writing his drivel about full moons, and me howling, and so on.
Tom Jea.
"Can any regular reader point me to any item critical of a Conservative?"
ReplyDeleteWell, lets see. There was the one in which Ted and I took Rebecca harris to task over her Armed Forces collection and i got into an argument with a Conservative activist that just went on and on.
Then there was the one in which Ted reported on Colin Letchford's Concord pool report.
But lets face it Tom the CIIP does nothing else but spin and you are just the same as you continue to show in your FOUR IDENTICAL comments here. I take it that each was designed for a separate post but you didn't realise you needed to actually click "comment" on each one to link your words to it.
And you thought you'd conduct a little spam operation at the same time did you by adopting Anonymous?
You really are a piece of work aren't you Tom?
And, for the record, the Canvey Beat has also been critical of Castle Point Borough Council regarding its housing achievements; its support for officers regarding Bill Sharp's suspension; Council Officer remuneration; and Canvey's lack of infrastructure in relation to its Core Strategy Plans.
ReplyDeleteAs for pieces on independents: John Anderson was singled out for praise in his chamber criticisms regarding the Tories' Core Strategy.
Duh, Cynical Observer, did you not notice I put my name at the bottom of the anonymous post?! Whenever I tried to put a response up it told me the password was wrong, so I tried each of the options- hence several of the same thing (I hope Ted Pugh will feel free to remove the extra ones).
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I don’t really think 4 messages count as a ‘spamming operation’!
Pugh- oh, so you reckon that balances out the huge amount of anti-anything-you-don’t-like-and-never-mind-checking-anything?
Tom Jea.
Yeah. Right Tom.
ReplyDeleteLike you need any kind of password to post an Anonymous or named comment on this Blog!
Pull the other one its got bells on....................
I'll explain it very simply so you might understand, Cynical Observer. To post a comment under the Google Account option you have to give a username and password. It kept telling me I had the incorrect password, so I posted under the anonymous option which- OF COURSE- doesn't need a password, which is probably why it worked!
ReplyDeleteI was going to avoid posting here again because it gets very tedious, but I explained again 'cos I figured Cynical Observer needed the help.
Tom Jea.
Ding a ling a ling!
ReplyDeleteI must be really thick Tom becasue i am still confused. You say you couldn't sign into your Google account so you chose to post as Anonymous.
i could accept that if it was what you did - but you didn't.
You posted under your own name at 11.52. Then you pasted that same comment into another form using Tom Jea again at 11.53. Then you pasted that same comment into another form, this time choosing Anonymous, and posted it at 11.54. And then, at 13.31, you pasted the same comment into another form under anonymous and posted that.
You cannot post the same comment twice without physically recreating it. The form clears itself as soon as submit is pressed.
You must think we are all stupid here......................
Good grief! You really are obsessional about this, aren't you?!!
ReplyDeleteAs I said, each time I clicked to post my comment a message came up saying my password was incorrect- so I pasted the comment into a new box and tried again under the next of the four options. Did you really work out the exact times I did this?! Weird!
Please note I put my name on every comment (even the 'anonymous' ones), and I also wrote that Ted Pugh could take down the extra comments.
Still, if you really do think it was a deliberate attempt at internet espionage, to crash the blog's system with a deluge of 4 messages in a 'spam operation'- you go ahead and believe that.
Go ahead and have the last word, if you want- I'm losing the will to type, and I won't respond again.
Tom Jea.
PS. The Google account option seems to be okay now, so hopefully no more multiple submissions.